Brookfield Oaktree Wealth Solutions' John Sweeney - building a high-performing wealth solutions business

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode dives into the details of distribution and how to build a high-performing global business to serve the wealth channel across brands and strategies.

John Sweeney is the Chief Executive Officer of Brookfield Oaktree Wealth Solutions, a business unit that was created to harmonize the distribution efforts across the Brookfield and Oaktree brands. He previously served as Head of US Business Development and Sales for Brookfield Oaktree Wealth Solutions and was a Managing Director and Head of the Americas intermediary business at Oaktree Capital. He also served as president of Oaktree Funds from 2014-2018.

Before joining the alternative asset manager side of the business, John had extensive experience working in alternative investments roles at private banks. Before joining Oaktree in 2013, he was a Managing Director and Head of Product Management and Development for the alternative investments business at Morgan Stanley. Prior to that, he was the Head of Product Management in the US for the alternative investments business of the Citi Private Bank.

John and I had a fascinating and informative discussion. We covered:
  • How John is building Brookfield Oaktree’s wealth business.
  • The benefits of scale.
  • Wisdom from John’s Oaktree colleague Howard Marks.
  • How advisor education is critical to the adoption of private markets.
Thanks John for coming on the show to share your wisdom and views on private markets and working with the wealth channel.

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Show Notes
00:00 Introduction to our Sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions
01:55 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream
02:06 Introduction to John Sweeney
03:58 John's Early Career at Morgan Stanley
04:34 Evolution of Alternative Investments
05:15 Impact of Technology on Private Markets
06:42 Service and Distribution Strategy
09:33 Building Brookfield Oaktree's Wealth Business
11:16 Brookfield and Oaktree Acquisition
12:42 Creating Investment Solutions
14:07 Understanding the Wealth Channel
15:05 Global Distribution Strategy
17:52 Importance of Brand and Service
19:06 Effective Client Engagement
21:09 Advisors vs. Institutional Investors
22:27 Evergreen Funds and Distribution
25:09 Balancing Content and Engagement
27:15 Investment Philosophy and Market Context
29:36 Risk Control and Consistency
30:53 Generational Wealth Transfer
31:40 Educating the Next Generation of Investors
32:04 Long-Term Track Record and Conclusion
32:18 Delivering Returns and Long-Term Success
32:31 Accessing Evergreen Funds
32:45 Compounding Returns Over Time
32:52 Thinking in Decades
32:57 Private Credit and Economic Cycles
33:16 Experience and Results
33:41 Brand and Experience in Private Markets
34:55 Marketing and History
35:12 Brookfield Real Estate Introduction
35:34 Oaktree's Credit Roots
35:55 Integrating Two Brands
36:15 Building Solutions and Partnerships
39:03 Global Presence and Scale
39:13 Navigating Wealth Channel Conversations
40:34 Competing in Various Deal Sizes
41:16 Exploring Secondary Markets
41:56 Private Capital Opportunities
42:50 Survey Insights on Alternatives
44:04 Global Wealth Channel Strategies
44:44 Regional Strategies and Local Teams
47:42 Building a Culture of Shared Success
48:42 Educating Advisors
49:43 Early Stages of Wealth Channel
51:41 Model Portfolios and Solutions
56:32 The Appeal of Music Royalties and Human Connection
58:14 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.
2021